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The effects of fracking are not well understood and it should be banned until more research is done

186 votes · 6 months ago
2

The attempted coup in Turkey made things worse.

183 votes · 7 months ago
3

It's fair for the EU to make Apple pay back taxes

186 votes · 6 months ago
4

Children under 5 should not be given electronic devices like iPads to play with

191 votes · 6 months ago
5

Dehorning rhinos is a sensible way to prevent poaching

187 votes · 6 months ago
6

Lee Harvey Oswald was not the only shooter in the JFK assassination

159 votes · 6 months ago

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Disagree Indifferent Agree
Disagree 2 4 0
4 Indifferent 2 3 2
Agree 1 1 3

18 common answers

44% of people answered the same

There is a small level of correlation (34%)

Chi² pValue = 0.28148 · Tau b = 0.33964 · Cramer's V = 0.37480

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Disagree Indifferent Agree
Disagree 0 0 1
2 Indifferent 1 2 1
Agree 4 6 1

16 common answers

18% of people answered the same

There is a small level of inverse correlation (32%)

Chi² pValue = 0.27210 · Tau b = -0.32224 · Cramer's V = 0.40123

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Disagree Indifferent Agree
Disagree 2 3 3
5 Indifferent 0 1 0
Agree 3 2 1

15 common answers

26% of people answered the same

There is a small level of inverse correlation (27%)

Chi² pValue = 0.58788 · Tau b = -0.26574 · Cramer's V = 0.30675

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Disagree Indifferent Agree
Disagree 7 1 4
3 Indifferent 2 7 15
Agree 53 49 24

162 common answers

23% of people answered the same

There is little to no correlation (21%)

Chi² pValue = 0.00005 · Tau b = -0.21393 · Cramer's V = 0.27844

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Disagree Indifferent Agree
Disagree 1 4 5
2 Indifferent 5 17 41
Agree 6 20 79

178 common answers

54% of people answered the same

There is little to no correlation (13%)

Chi² pValue = 0.39902 · Tau b = 0.13314 · Cramer's V = 0.10669

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Disagree Indifferent Agree
Disagree 9 0 1
2 Indifferent 33 21 9
Agree 51 31 24

179 common answers

30% of people answered the same

There is little to no correlation (13%)

Chi² pValue = 0.08128 · Tau b = 0.12600 · Cramer's V = 0.15224

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Disagree Indifferent Agree
Disagree 34 29 17
4 Indifferent 33 17 8
Agree 28 8 10

184 common answers

33% of people answered the same

There is little to no correlation (12%)

Chi² pValue = 0.12947 · Tau b = -0.11696 · Cramer's V = 0.13914

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Disagree Indifferent Agree
Disagree 4 1 5
2 Indifferent 26 19 18
Agree 50 36 21

180 common answers

24% of people answered the same

There is little to no correlation (10%)

Chi² pValue = 0.19097 · Tau b = -0.09927 · Cramer's V = 0.13029

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Disagree Indifferent Agree
Disagree 1 0 0
3 Indifferent 0 2 1
Agree 4 2 2

12 common answers

41% of people answered the same

There is little to no correlation (7%)

Chi² pValue = 0.40151 · Tau b = -0.07397 · Cramer's V = 0.40995

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Disagree Indifferent Agree
Disagree 6 3 3
3 Indifferent 1 1 26
Agree 23 1 70

134 common answers

57% of people answered the same

There is little to no correlation (6%)

Chi² pValue = 0.00000 · Tau b = 0.05717 · Cramer's V = 0.33618

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Disagree Indifferent Agree
Disagree 18 11 11
1 Indifferent 2 8 11
Agree 38 39 23

161 common answers

30% of people answered the same

There is little to no correlation (5%)

Chi² pValue = 0.02114 · Tau b = -0.05286 · Cramer's V = 0.18930

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Disagree Indifferent Agree
Disagree 1 2 1
1 Indifferent 0 1 0
Agree 4 6 3

18 common answers

27% of people answered the same

There is little to no correlation (5%)

Chi² pValue = 0.89274 · Tau b = -0.04792 · Cramer's V = 0.17556

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Disagree Indifferent Agree
Disagree 4 0 6
2 Indifferent 11 16 36
Agree 23 26 59

181 common answers

43% of people answered the same

There is little to no correlation (2%)

Chi² pValue = 0.32347 · Tau b = -0.01774 · Cramer's V = 0.11352

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Disagree Indifferent Agree
Disagree 25 5 10
1 Indifferent 18 20 6
Agree 52 29 19

184 common answers

34% of people answered the same

There is little to no correlation (1%)

Chi² pValue = 0.02565 · Tau b = 0.01492 · Cramer's V = 0.17354

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Disagree Indifferent Agree
Disagree 6 4 2
3 Indifferent 24 1 6
Agree 63 1 26

133 common answers

24% of people answered the same

There is little to no correlation (1%)

Chi² pValue = 0.00002 · Tau b = 0.00809 · Cramer's V = 0.31668

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46% (20 people) who are Indifferent about3 agree with 2 14% lower than normal
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15% (7 people) who are Indifferent about1 are Indifferent about 3 8% lower than normal
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28% (10 people) who agree with5 disagree with 1 7% higher than normal
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17% (6 people) who agree with5 are Indifferent about 3 6% lower than normal
63% (53 people) who disagree with4 agree with 3 6% lower than normal
19% (24 people) who agree with3 agree with 4 6% lower than normal
28% (11 people) who disagree with1 are Indifferent about 2 6% lower than normal
60% (6 people) who disagree with2 agree with 1 6% higher than normal
54% (51 people) who disagree with5 agree with 2 6% lower than normal
19% (21 people) who agree with2 agree with 4 6% lower than normal
11% (5 people) who agree with4 disagree with 2 6% higher than normal
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48% (17 people) who agree with5 disagree with 4 5% higher than normal
38% (38 people) who agree with1 disagree with 4 5% lower than normal
33% (4 people) who disagree with3 are Indifferent about 5 5% higher than normal
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11% (1 person) who skip with6 agree with 2 49% lower than normal
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29% (28 people) who disagree with5 agree with 4 4% higher than normal
34% (33 people) who disagree with5 are Indifferent about 4 4% higher than normal
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60% (3 people) who disagree with6 agree with 5 41% higher than normal
73% (33 people) who are Indifferent about1 agree with 3 4% higher than normal
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47% (51 people) who agree with2 disagree with 5 4% lower than normal
9% (9 people) who disagree with5 disagree with 2 4% higher than normal
38% (21 people) who are Indifferent about5 are Indifferent about 2 4% higher than normal
64% (36 people) who are Indifferent about4 agree with 2 4% higher than normal
1% (1 person) who are Indifferent about4 disagree with 2 4% lower than normal
10% (1 person) who disagree with2 disagree with 3 4% higher than normal
65% (41 people) who are Indifferent about2 agree with 3 4% lower than normal
73% (79 people) who agree with2 agree with 3 4% higher than normal
9% (4 people) who are Indifferent about3 disagree with 2 4% higher than normal
60% (3 people) who agree with6 agree with 4 35% higher than normal
3% (3 people) who disagree with4 skip with 5 3% higher than normal
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3% (3 people) who agree with1 disagree with 3 3% lower than normal
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9% (4 people) who agree with4 disagree with 3 3% higher than normal
57% (36 people) who are Indifferent about2 agree with 1 3% higher than normal
37% (16 people) who are Indifferent about1 are Indifferent about 2 3% higher than normal
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8% (1 person) who disagree with3 disagree with 2 3% higher than normal
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40% (4 people) who disagree with2 disagree with 4 3% lower than normal
46% (50 people) who agree with2 disagree with 4 3% higher than normal
63% (79 people) who agree with3 agree with 2 3% higher than normal
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25% (1 person) who are Indifferent about5 skip with 6 25% higher than normal
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